We here at Rock Fight HQ are excited to debut a new weekly segment...GEAR & BEER!
This is reviewing gear, THE ROCK FIGHT way because largely speaking gear reviews have become pretty boring. There's rarely a 'so what' in these reviews because stuff mostly works.
So Colin and Justin are here to throw rocks at the status quo and approach gear reviews the same way we approach most things: Through the types of conversations we have when out riding, skiing, surfing or hanging out at the trailhead...only this time on a podcast.
Each week one of us will bring forth a piece of gear: a shoe, some apparel, a suitcase, sleeping bag, kayak, a pot or a pan…whatever, to review and then because we make way too much stuff these days, we'll rank it on the STUFF-O-METER (listen to learn about the STUFF-O-METER).
Lastly certified Cicerone (which means certified beer guy) Justin Housman will pair the perfect beverage with the gear and activity we talked about.
First up, the Kona Unit X and Founders Brewery All Day IPA.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Colin (00:08):
Welcome to the Rock Fight where we speak our truth, slay sacred cows, and sometimes agree to disagree. This is an outdoor podcast that aims for the head. I'm Colin True. And today, well, it's time. We've been circling gear, a gear segment here on the Rock fight for a long time because the way gear and stuff is covered by Legacy Outdoor Media, it's kind of antiquated, frankly, it's boring as hell. So today I am excited to announce the first edition of Rock Fights Gear and Beer. Joining me is Justin Hausman. What's up Justin? Hi
Justin (00:38):
Colin, and
Colin (00:40):
Here's how this is going to
Justin (00:41):
Work. It's Colin, right? It's Colin.
Colin (00:42):
It is, yeah. Nice to meet you. The listicle has taken the place of criticism and a gear review for most out there, and it's just often an opportunity to make money from an affiliate link. So what we're going to do is we're going to treat the gear the same way we treat everything else here at the rock fight. What are the conversations we have when we're out riding, skiing, surfing, hanging out at the trailhead? They're as much gear based conversations as they are reviews. Each episode of one of these, one of us will bring forth a piece of gear, a shoe, some apparel, a suitcase, pot, pan, lantern perhaps, whatever. We'll talk about it. Then we'll end the episode with the perfect beverage to pair with the gear and activity we talked about today. And lastly, because we believe here that just too much stuff is being made, we're going to rate each product on what we're calling the stuff barometer, a scale where the best score means humanity and society would actually be losing something if this thing went away. And the war score means that this thing, regardless of performance, probably shouldn't exist in the first place. So we're ready for the first episode of Gear and Beer. Justin, are you ready?
Justin (01:48):
I'm ready. I thought about bringing this piece of gear into my house to make a cool sound effect, but then I looked at how muddy it was and I couldn't do it.
Colin (01:57):
Good tease. Let's get into today's gear.
Colin As A SFX (02:01):
Welcome to Gear and Beer. This is Gear.
Colin (02:08):
Alright man, you have the floor for today's gear. What are we talking about?
Justin (02:11):
Well, so we just wrapped up our previous recording where Colin is professing his love for the most rudimentary kind of bike you could imaginable because he hates e-bikes and anything that's been made in the last 50
Colin (02:27):
Years. And E bikers,
Justin (02:28):
Specifically bike related. Yeah. Yeah.
Colin (02:30):
I push him over when I'm riding by him on trails. So
Justin (02:34):
Colin's going to love this one, although he has the wrong make and model of the version that I'm about to talk about. How dare you. But today for inaugural gear and beer, I'm going to lad the Kona Unit X. It is Kona's bike packing bike. It is a steel frame, a rigid bike that I frankly think we need a lot more of in this world. If you have not go over to adventure journal.com. Adventure journal.com. Last week, I believe it was last week, might've been two weeks ago now. It depends on when you're hearing this, but I posted a review of the Kona Unit X, so if you want to get a little bit more nitty gritty, although I'm not really the kind of reviewer that dives deep into the weeds about technical specs, I don't really care that much myself about that sort of thing.
(03:23)I don't think you do really either, and you can get that from the manufacturer's website about any piece of gear anyway, so I mostly just talk about it's readily available. Yeah, I mostly just talk about my use case for things and why I think it matters. It's funny, I actually was thinking about this the other day. My gear reviews tend to kind of follow the pattern of the recipes that people love to make fun of, where it's like, I want to read a recipe for how to make a French dip. And it's like the first 400 words about the first time you had a French dip at your grandma's house and how good it was. People are just like, give me the recipe. That's kind my gear reviews though. It's like I
Colin (03:53):
Appreciate that. We know stuff mostly works. That's kind of the thing about the segment is we kind recognize that stuff mostly
Justin (03:59):
Works. It's hard to find crappy shit now, so everything's going to be kind of fine. And if you're into gear at all, I shouldn't have to tell you. Okay, it's a steel frame rigid bike, you're probably going to go, okay, probably weighs like 28 to 32 pounds. You kind of know, right? But do you need me to break that down? I guess I could.
Colin (04:14):
No,
Justin (04:14):
But anyway, so that's what we're talking about today, the Kona Unit X. So I've had this bike for, I should look it up, I would guess like eight months, probably a couple different seasons at least of riding. And I got it with the intention of using it as a bike packing bike. So it is, like I said, it's a steel frame bike, it's an rigid frame bike and it's loaded with mounting points. So this is like kona's workhorse bike packer and they've made the Kona unit, which is a single speed version for at least 20 years. I'm not sure how long they made the unit X, but the Unit X has a one by 12 drive drain, so you get some gears. Perfect, perfect. Which is all you need. And I mean I'll get into YI love a steel frame bike in a minute, but the other thing that's great about the Unit X is, I mean it doesn't have a lot of moving parts, so it's pretty cheap.
(05:00)It's 1599 I think, and it has Shimano Dior drivetrain, which I think is wonderful. My preferred component level for anything is the Shimano SLX series. I feel like SLX is the perfect blend of performance and durability. Anything above that XT stuff is cool, but you don't really need it. I've just found that SLX is perfect and Dior is, honestly, I think it's probably the same. It's fine moving parts as SLX, it just has a plastic body instead of a metal body on a lot of the stuff. It's fine. I've never had an issue with any Dior stuff and somewhere
Colin (05:35):
Out there a bike nerd is screaming at us, but
Justin (05:37):
It's fine. I mean it weighs six ounces more than SLX maybe, which weighs two ounces more than XT and whatever. If you're in aam, God help you. I don't really, I'm a Shimano guy, I can't really. Yeah, and it has Shimano. I'm pretty sure they're four pot brakes hydraulic obviously, but they're their MT four tens or whatever. They don't even give 'em a fun name, but they work, everything works. It works great and I think it weighs 31 pounds, so it's not the lightest bike in the world, but it's not offensively heavy, but I think of it as more of an adventure bike and that's kind of what my review was getting into. I haven't bike packed on it even though that's what it's for, but what's great about it is I just don't have to think about it. I don't even put it inside a lot.
(06:26)It can get rained on, I'll leave it out there, I'll hose it off, I'll dry it off. I'm not worried about the fork getting weird water in it. I'm not worried about the shock being exposed to temperature changes. You don't have to service that crap and it's just such a joy to ride. It's a 29 er, it comes with 2.6 inch tires. It'll take up to three inches if you want. I run mine with a frame bag all the time and I have an old man mountain rack on the back. I think it's the divide rack and they make old man mountain mix, these beautiful racks that are built for rough riding so it doesn't rattle. And I'll throw a blanket on there, I'll throw a book, maybe a couple beers in the frame bag and I'll just ride up into the hills and park it.
(07:05)Maybe I'll go fishing and I can throw a collapsible rod in the frame bag or whatever. And yeah, I can do all this with my full suspension bike too. It just feels weird. It feels like it's overkill to do that sort of stuff. I can ride it to the store. I frequently do. I can put my 4-year-old on the back, she could sit on the rack and hold my waist and I can ride her around like that and it's just a do it all bike. I love that kind of thing. I've covered the Husky Goler a lot, which is a similar idea. It's a rigid bike. It's aluminum with a carbon fork and really it's a flat bar gravel bike. It's a little bit less burly, but it's the same kind of thing. It's like a bike. When you were 12 you had a bike that did everything and that's what this is and it's a bargain at 1500 bucks, it will last forever.
(07:47)I wrote a follow-up piece, I wrote the review of the Unit X kind talking about why I like the bike and then I published a review and a day later I was like, you know what else I love about these? I'm never going to get itchy feet about having to get the newer one. It will be exactly the same. And my full suspension bike, I think it's probably four model years old now and another couple of years is going to look funky. I'm going to look at it and be like, dammit, I look like that guy who bought a bike 10 years ago and which is cool. Everything else that's cool, but with a mountain bike, if it's 10 years old, you look like an idiot and you're never going to have that problem with this bike. They age so well. I mean the coolest bikes around are rigid steel frame bikes and that's what this is and it's just going to get better over time.
Colin (08:32):
Anybody who's listening to this podcast long enough knows. I talk a lot about my surly karate monkey. I have all the same thoughts on a rigid bike. I've been a little hyperbolic about it intentionally because mostly because of the bike weenies out there who just have to have all the most modern stuff and it's got to do this and it's got to do that. And I think the reason why I like the rigid bike so much is because it's like actually if you go and ride a rigid bike, I don't care how good of a mountain biker you are, and yes, maybe if you're a super downhill guy, whatever, it's not orgal, it's not going to do those things. But if you ride a go ride a rigid mountain bike on just your local trails, you're going to realize like, oh, I can ride this pretty much the same as I ride every other bike that I have.
(09:13)It's going to perform pretty much the same and you have way less to think about. It's just a simpler experience. I mean, you're poking fun of me at the beginning about our other conversation on the last episode about hating e-bikes. I recognize the importance of them into the category, but there is something to be said for just the simple form of the bike and it just how effective it is in terms of creating joy and practicality in terms of, like you said, go to the grocery store, those kinds of things. And I guess my big addition of your thoughts on this bike, and I've not ridden this bike, but it's got to be similar to my experience on the karate monkey is everybody has, if you're able in financially to and space wise to have a quiver and you don't have sort of a rigid steel bike, what are you doing? As much as you want to have your super e-bike, full suspension, whatever, you should also have just the basic rigid steel bike. Because by the way, like you said Justin, it's not going to never going to need to replace it. It's a one-time purchase and it's probably going to be the cheapest bike you own.
Justin (10:07):
Yeah, and the cool thing about this one too is you can get weird out there. You can go to the IV this and discover all kinds of boutique bike makers that are making steel frame bikes and spend five, six grand if you want to, but you don't have to. I mean that's a bargain. It sucks that that's a bargain, but that's a bargain these days at 1500 bucks for a bike like this. So you
Colin (10:29):
Needs to have a dropper though, you said
Justin (10:32):
Have a dropper. Yeah, it doesn't have a dropper, but that's not a big deal. Also awesomely am pretty sure this is right. It's routed for mostly an external, I think there's a port at the bottom of the seat tube so you don't have to route it through the, if you want to route a dropper post, it'd be an external cable along the down tube into a port in the seat tube, so you wouldn't have to,
Colin (10:53):
That's where my surly is too. Yeah,
Justin (10:56):
The husky I got didn't have a dropper post and the port was at the head set and I was just like, ah, shit, I, it's really hard to route that, but this one would be really easy to do it yourself. So you go to p and w, buy an epic dropper post for like 150 bucks, good to go. You get your dropper because yeah, that is, as much
Colin (11:13):
As I talk about the simplicity of the practicality of the basic bike, I like a dropper spot.
Justin (11:18):
It's insane. If I go over a curb without a dropper post, I'm terrified I'm going to go over the bars. That sucks. Plus honestly, I'd be fine. I'd probably be fine on a full suspension bike without a dropper hose. At this point you have a bit more confidence. I mean, rigid bikes are fun and they're great, but if you're going fast downhill over anything with rocks or roots, you'll feel it. And if you're only rid, you're probably your
Colin (11:41):
Brakes a
Justin (11:42):
Little more. Yeah, it's a little different. And you're definitely going to be a little bit more wishing you could slam it. So you could be a bit in a bit more control. But other than that, but it's no big deal. Just get one with a dropper or just add a dropper, you're good to go.
Colin (11:53):
Describe the Kamali steel experience. I have a tough time putting into words why I enjoy riding a steel bike, but there's a feeling to it that I've never experienced on a tie or aluminum bike.
Justin (12:04):
I mean, it's interesting. I usually say it feels more pure, and I don't even know what I mean by that. It just feels like a more pure feeling. There's a dampening sensation and they're really compliant. And so if you take even a real good alloy frame over a chattery trail, I mean you'll feel it and you'll feel it with a steel bike too, but it soaks it up a bit more. It feels alive.
Colin (12:33):
I remember my first ride on my steel bike, it was again 29, it was like two and a half, 2.6 inch tires, kind of like yours. And I remember taking it out specifically thinking I took it on a pretty rocky trail around here just to say, okay, I'm going to ride this once and then I know I'm going to take it right back to my shop and I'm put a fork on it on the karate monkey. And I rode five miles and I'm like, this is great. Just hitting rocks. And I don't know why it feels smoother on the steel versus other. I mean it's like, look, yeah, there was no fork, so you're not getting any sort of absorption. So it was different, but it wasn't as severe as I thought it was going to be.
Justin (13:07):
And I don't know enough about how metals work. I dunno if steel is more flexible than aluminum, I presume it probably is. So I think there's some flexibility to it. And I think that there's probably also, but it also could just be the weight of steel, maybe it just is able to absorb bumps more, but it just feels, feels like there's a dampening sensation with steel. But I also feel you can, it's not like you feel it bend, but yeah, it feels pure. It feels a little bit alive. It just feels different. Plus usually because steel is so much stronger, the tubes are smaller, so not looking at a three inch across most mountain bikes, if it's carbon or aluminum, now the top tube is really thick, so you have this nice broom handle size. All the tubes are small, so the bike looks more elegant,
Colin (13:58):
Looks more just timeless. Yeah,
Justin (14:00):
Well that's what I was saying earlier about, so that was actually the secondary article I wrote for aj. It's not so much that you don't have to upgrade it, it's more that it's timeless. It's that it's never going to look old. And if it does, it's probably because bar shapes have changed. So you put slaps new handlebars on it or slaps some different tires on it. But I mean, there's just something so classic about, I mean, you could pull out an old steel frame bike from the fifties and it'd be like, oh, that bike is beautiful and that's how this will be.
Colin (14:24):
Alright, so some specific product questions to answer number one, this bike, obviously it seems like it performed as advertised. Oh,
Justin (14:29):
For sure. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I haven't bike backed on it, but I mean it obviously would be badass doing that. So yeah.
Colin (14:36):
Would you buy it with your own money? Yes. As a gear reviewer you tend to get things, that's why I'm
Justin (14:41):
Asking you that. Yeah, I know. But yes, absolutely.
Colin (14:44):
Okay, so let's move into the stuff question. Should it exist, do we need it? And I guess really, well really it comes down to where does this rank on the, again, 10 is the world is a worst place if this thing doesn't exist. One is puff and drinkware.
Justin (15:00):
I mean, I guess emotionally 10 in all reality. I don't know, seven or eight. I mean there's other steel frame bikes out there. I don't know that this one's doing anything different than your karate monkey is. So steel frame bikes generally like a steel frame rigid bike for general adventure use 10. The Kona Unit X, I don't know. Depends on, I haven't ridden yours. I haven't ridden a across. I can't
Colin (15:26):
Imagine you notice a
Justin (15:27):
Bunch of a difference. I doubt I would. To me, I'm extremely happy with the performance of this bike. I could not be more pleased. I mean, I don't work for pink bike, so I don't review new bikes every day. But I mean I've ridden a lot of bikes I haven't written about, I had a MOS for a while, an $11,000 tie gravel bike. I never wrote a review. I don't see the point. I don't mean to beautiful bike very well, made no complaints about how it rode. I mean it was a really good bike, but I can't, in all honestly recommend someone buy $11,000 bike. It just didn't seem a purpose to it to me.
Colin (16:08):
I think you're right in that seven and a half to eight range because the timelessness of the steel bike, it's not ever going to go out of fashion. You're always going to have it unless you just decide to get rid of it. You just want to get rid of stuff. You're not get rid of it because you could
Justin (16:19):
Forget you had this bike for 20 years, go out, get some chain lube and it would be exactly the same. If I did that with my full SU bikes, the forks would lock up. It just,
Colin (16:29):
That's what I mean. I think there's probably a lot of modern mountain bikes or gravel bikes or road bikes that are just like, they're like $5,000 disposable items.
Justin (16:40):
Well, they really are. I mean, I've talked about this with surfboards a lot where it's like you kind of don't think about it that way because you sell it. That's the thing with bikes, right? You buy a bike. Have you ever thrown a bike in the garbage in your life? No. But you probably owned what, 30 bikes in your life and maybe you have four now I'm the same way. And it's like I probably owned, I don't know, a hundred surfboards in my life. I've never thrown one away, but now I only have four. So where are the other one? Because you sell it. So you buy a bike, you ride it for a few years and then you sell it and that person sells it and that person sells it and eventually goes to the landfill. You don't think of it as disposable because you didn't throw it away, but it is to you. And so I hate that. I hate that in all things. I hate that. Especially in something like a really expensive bike.
Colin (17:24):
Alright, so what's the official score? Seven and a half. Eight. Eight and a half.
Justin (17:28):
I guess eight feels right.
Colin (17:30):
Eight.
Justin (17:31):
Eight feels right with the option that it probably could be a 10. I would need to ride every other steel frame bike to be like, okay. Specifically this one. I mean, I will say I've looked at photos of the karate monkey and I do think that the geometry on the X looks a little bit slacker. It might not be, I haven't looked at the numbers. It looks a little slacker. It looks a little bit more like it's designed to get rowdier. That's the other thing I like a lot about it, that if you did put a suspension fork on it, I think it would be a super fun hard tail for even some complicated riding. It's real snappy. It steers really nicely. It feels in some ways it would be like if you owned an M series Beamer, which would be, I dunno, a transition sentinel or whatever, some badass trail slayer, and then you went and got in an MG where everything was analog and direct feedback from the, it didn't have power steering. That's kind what it's like where you feel every pebble, the steering is super direct or running in barefoot shoes. You are really intimate with the experience on a bike like this in which where you're so far removed on an e mountain bike full suspension thing where you're basically just flying over stuff and you're not even aware it's there. This is the exact opposite experience.
Colin (18:48):
I think you and your bike need to get a room, man. You're getting intimate with your
Justin (18:51):
Bike. I like bikes. I like bikes. I like bikes. I like bikes. That feel good Colin?
Colin (18:58):
Alright, well let's now turn our attention to after the activity at the break that put in the trail head, we're going to crack open the cooler and ibe a beverage so we can celebrate our wins and losses in the back country. Let's have a beer.
Colin As A SFX (19:12):
Welcome to Gear and Beer. This is beer.
Colin (19:17):
So Justin, you have to give your credentials here because you're going to make some beer recommendations to pair with and we'll make some non-alcoholic ones too. But what are we going to go ripping around? What are we drinking? That's what I'm trying to say. After we go ripping around on the Kona Unit X.
Justin (19:34):
Well, hold on, lemme see if I can make this work. Okay, you hear that? Oh,
Colin (19:39):
That's going to explode in your
Justin (19:40):
Face. Well, let's see. That sounds good. I caught a little
Colin (19:46):
Bit of it. God, that sounds good. I caught a little bit.
Justin (19:49):
Do you hear nothing better than a fricking cracked can of beer? Hold on a sec. Okay. Yeah, there it is. That's the spot. That's the stuff. So thought really hard about, oh, okay, so well you got to
Colin (20:01):
Give your back. Yeah, your
Justin (20:02):
Credentials here. So annoyingly probably a lot of people out there.
Colin (20:07):
No,
Justin (20:08):
Well, I'm called a certified cone. Okay, so this is an actual thing where the beer industry 20 years ago was like, well, sommelier in the wine business exists, so we should have that for beer. They got
Colin (20:21):
Jealous
Justin (20:22):
Kind of. But it's also as craft beer started blowing up and places that got really into beer, wanted to kind of know like, okay, the same reason you'd have a sommelier, right? You want somebody, oh, you actually have that designation. You obviously know a lot. So I used to work in the beer industry. I ran a huge beer bar and the people that ran it agreed to send me to this beer program to get this certified training in beer. So this was actually really gnarly. It's a really hard test. It took me two years to study for it in to pass all the tests leading up to it.
Colin (20:52):
But what they didn't realize is that beer pairs better with gear than with food.
Justin (20:57):
Well you don't eat the gear though, Colin.
Colin (20:59):
No, but just come on. You got to go roll with the bit.
Justin (21:02):
It's too literal for me, Colin. I haven't had enough of the founders' all day IPA, which is what I've chosen for. Oh
Colin (21:08):
Spoiler, that's what we're talking about.
Justin (21:09):
Well, you made talk. He opened the door for me to talk about myself, so I was just going right in there. That, but anyway, so yeah, I know my beer, I drink a lot of beer. I'm more of a beer expert than a gear expert. So when I was thinking about it, I was like, okay, this is a bike that you can ride every day, that you can take anywhere that it's kind of your go-to daily bike. So it's like, all right, I think about beers like a Modelo or even a Budweiser or if you wanted to get super funny guy, a Kona longboard logger. But what I went with that's
Colin (21:41):
On the nose,
Justin (21:42):
A little on the nose, a little on the dose, what I went with is the founder's all day IPA, which is, I mean, I feel like this is kind of a buzzy sort of beer right now. Not this beer particularly, but like a low alcohol, fully hopped beer. So I should have looked it up. I think it's right around four point a half percent alcohol. So maybe 4.8, but less than a Budweiser. But it tastes, it doesn't have the multi richness of a true IPA. So it's a bit more of on the Pale Ale scale. Wait, even though they call it an I Bud's,
Colin (22:10):
Like a three two beer, isn't it?
Justin (22:11):
Isn't a Bud a three two? No, bud is five like a nice solid 5 3 2. A Budweiser
Colin (22:15):
Is a five.
Justin (22:16):
Yeah, dude, three two is like a Utah beer. Nobody makes three, two beers. They do in Utah, but not in the rest of, not in the, this
Colin (22:22):
Is why we have a cerone on the show. Explain these
Justin (22:26):
Things, things to me. The official rock fry. Yeah, no Bud's are right around five. Mean it might be you a T-shirt. It might be like four nine, but they're all right around there. Your average lagger is about 5%. Whereas I've had
Colin (22:37):
This beer, by the way, unknowing that it was from Michigan or anything. It was some bar down here in San Diego recently. It's
Justin (22:43):
Tasty Founders has been around for a while. We looked it up when we talked, so we already knew we were going to talk about this beer folks. But yeah, we were both surprised. It was from Michigan. I should have known that I stopped, I had founders at the bar that worked at, but this is also great. It comes in, I've only ever seen it in 15 packs. I'm sure you can get it as a six pack. Oh, no kidding. And you can get founders and lots of other, they make a ton of really good beers. But the all day IPA always comes into 15 pack with a big red sticker that's like three extra beers and it's usually the same price as a 12 pack. It's great. So they're usually, I think I usually pay 18 bucks for 15 pack, which is great. And it's what I take when I go camping always. Because you can drink, you can have three, four of 'em in a day and you're not going to feel like hell. And again, it's something you can have every day. It's a great beard to just have in the fridge. You go for a ride on your Kona or you don't. It's just a nice everyday sort of vibe and it tastes great. Fricking tastes good. So
Colin (23:41):
The practicality and the timelessness of the Kona Unit X is what pairs well with the founders all day every day. But
Justin (23:48):
Also it's a Modelo. One would be a beach cruiser, like a bike that you're never going to get excited about. It's just there and I need to get from here to there or I need to have a beer. There it is, you have it. But the founders is great because like the Kona, it's a little spicy, right? It's flavorful, it's a real bike. And founders, it's a beer for people who like beer, right? It's not just a beer for people who just want to have a beer. It's like, you like the taste of hops, you like the taste of malt. This is a beer for people who like beer, but it's not complicated and it's not going to dominate your existence. Same thing with the Unit X.
Colin (24:25):
So what about our non-alcoholic powder? For folks who maybe don't drink listening, are we talking maybe classic Mexican coke? Just something, just an easy drink in soda? Are we going more?
Justin (24:34):
Yeah, I mean I'm a big, big, big fan of hot waters and so I don't really haven't really, there's very few non-alcoholic beers I like. So I am sure people listening to this are big fans of athletic brewing. I've tried, I have no issue with athletic brewing. I'm super happy for the success. I think it's great. I think there should be a lot more beers. As far as I know, nobody is really cracked the code on those. My favorite n na beers are the ones from the big breweries. Like a bud makes an epic one like Bud Zero or something. It's in a white can. You don't see it that much, but it's really good. Heineken makes a great non-alcoholic beer. Stella makes a really good non-alcoholic beer. But I dunno, I don't dig, I usually don't dig an A beers. But hot waters are great sparkling waters with flavored with hops and usually a little bit of a grapefruit extract. Those are great and you get the bitterness and the refreshness of a beer. But obviously without the booze, but without the sugar from a Coke.
Colin (25:31):
Right?
Justin (25:31):
Right. So yeah, do something like that. Or even a combo juice.
Colin (25:37):
Oh, we should talk about kombuchas. That's a great
Justin (25:38):
Idea. I'm not a big company for that. I just want to make
Colin (25:39):
Sure that the non-drinkers are represented here on gear and beer. Yeah,
Justin (25:43):
Yeah, sure. I guess
Colin (25:46):
So. Okay. To summarize this episode of Gear and Beer, we have the Kona Unit X, a classic steel bike from a well-known bike maker and worthy addition to your cycling quiver. We've given the bike a eight on the stuff. Ter. Should we allow whole numbers on the stuff Ter? Should it be like an 8.1 or seven
Justin (26:02):
Point? I think you could do, I think if it's an 8.2 it's an 8.2.
Colin (26:07):
So you're saying eight, you're going
Justin (26:08):
Right A straight eight, but yeah, straight eight. Okay. I could way into it. You could be having 8 7, 8 0.763 maybe. I don't know. Feel it out.
Colin (26:18):
Eventually what we do, something else similar. We'll see, we have to have to differentiate it somehow. But so any, not perfect on the Suter, but definitely not detri to society. And after you get done being all hipster and badass on your fully rigid unit X, we suggest the, that you refresh yourself with a founder's. Is it all day? All day?
Justin (26:36):
IPA all day. What a great name too. All
Colin (26:37):
Day IPA. It's a great name. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, well that's the show for today. What did you think of Gear and beer? Do you have a suggestion for gear and beer? Do you simply like gear and beer? Send an email to my rock fight@gmail.com. Let us know what you think. The rock fight is a production of rock Fight LC for Justin Hausman. I'm Colin. True. Thanks for listening. And here to take us out. His gear is guitar. And his beer. I think we said he's going to be, he's like a bud guy. We're just going to call him a bud Guy Krista makes, if you're listening right in, are you a bud guy? I don't know. But what I do know is that Krista makes Are you wing guy? Hey, I grew up drinking. I know you did. That was for you. Yeah. He's here to sing the rock Fight Fight song. We'll see you next time. Rock fighters. That's good. Oh, I caught that at the end. That was nice. Rock
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